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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:21 pm 
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Juggz think they need to all be redone. Refs are to be camera pods at EVERY game you were not a camera pod and are clearly interferring with the rats....

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:27 pm 
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I was not a camera pod but i did not interfere with any rats. I was well out of range the entire time.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:28 pm 
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It was a typical 1v1 base hit with no recycler damage. I think that the game will need to be re-played based on this criteria

1) No recycler damage means that it is not considered minigun rushing. (For it to even BEGIN to be considered mini rushing, I think an attacker would need to do over 10% recycler damage over any period of time before he techs to higher level weapons). A minigun rush (like a pummel rush) is only given that name due to the method of taking the recycler down. Sorry guys for not making this definition earlier, I *really* thought it was common sense what is considered a mini rush.
2) Spectators are supposed to spectate the game as CAMERA PODS! Preferably in morphed/invisible mode to prevent drawing AI fire in the game.
3) If camera pods are not enabled then the game must be restarted with camera pods enabled or it will not be considered an 'official' game. (from now on)

I say that this game should not count as an actual tournament game, although a part of me wants to award the win to Domakus for his opponent displaying such poor sportsmanship by trying to use the rules to shield himself from what is otherwise considered 'fair play' in 1v1.

Get some goddamn base D if you're so worried about your base getting hit up.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:32 pm 
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I agree with ZA. Ragequitting is very unsportsman like, clearly Dom did not hit the rec only the con. Juggz you can see in the video you were being hit by the rat and took damage as MAX starts to hover kill it, which means you distracted it as MAX shot it. Even if it was unintentional you did distract it.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:40 pm 
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Max won the 1st game fair and square. posting the video shortly.

The second game should be retaken, and I suggest you ref, Lumi. ty

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:41 pm 
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I have edited the tournament rules: Making a clause on point 2 to what is considered minigun rushing. As well as inserting a new rule 8 which indicates that refs must spectate as camera pods.

If anyone is opposed to these changes then let me know.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:43 pm 
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Talked with MAX, seems like they totally missunderstood the rule.

The rule is stupid anyways, nobody goes to hit the enemy rec with mini-gun, this rule is for 4v4.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 3:44 pm 
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Juggz ref it if you want, im just telling what I saw. I was asked to review it...

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 4:12 pm 
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Looking at the video it clearly shows max started calling for juggs before I even got to his base and also max was at my base trying to kill my rec when I caught him at mid and killed him.

secondly that is not the first con I killed that belonged to max the first one died while he was at my base shooting my rec.

As it stands it should be we both have 1 win and we play a third game. I refuse to do another game after this guy rage quit the way he did OR take back both our games and lets start over.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 4:19 pm 
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That's fine with me, if other refs are in agreement.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 4:24 pm 
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I agree with 1 win each and do a final game.

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PostPosted: September 29th, 2012, 4:32 pm 
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I got the 1st full game of the 1v1 match uploading to youtube now. Once done it can be seen here:


Even though Max quit the server, I still believe game 2 should be retaken especially seeing it was only 5 minutes into.
Perhaps we can vote on this.

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